[laingc]

I think GP is prefectly well aware of what was meant, and their point still stands - you need to do a lot of careful analysis to actually claim any ROI for these kinds of government handouts, and the burden of proof is very firmly on those claiming the benefits. The history of these things is overwhelmingly that in the final tally, actual benefits fall far short of break even.

[ImprobableTruth]

I don't feel comfortable with people just claiming that there's a positive ROI, but I feel the same about claiming "usually the ROI doesn’t materialize for the State" without anything to back it up.

>The history of these things is overwhelmingly that in the final tally, actual benefits fall far short of break even.

Do you have some source for this?