[happymellon]

Ops/Infra teams don't usually start software projects and not aware that there is a project for them to offer their help with.

My experience has been that they can be very accomodating and supportive if you do talk to tham.

[Aeolun]

Yeah, all those devs are just sitting there at their desks clacking away on their novels.

There is always a project for them to offer help with, since the business will not suffer devs to be idle.

[jasonlotito]

So instead of devs inviting ops people to the meeting they want ops people at, you are saying ops people should go up to devs while they are working and offer to help, even when they aren't needed?

No, that's not smart.

[_y5hn]

Help offered, but still radio silence.

Anyways, Ops have their own responsibilities and none of the core ones are centered on devs.