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by da_big_ghey 1747 days ago
Well I am all in favor of legalizeing, but there is side effect: those who are smoking in public, cigarette but especially pot, must have harsh consequence. I go to some place in US and it is stinking everywhere on public streets. People can not force everybody to inhale their drug fume only because they want their high.

Edit for clarifying: maybe a $200 fine is good point for starting, go up to $500 with repeating. I also think many smoker drop cigarette butts and we need greater fine for that if it will stop.

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If by "harsh consequences" you mean a $20 fine for smoking pot/cigarettes/cigars in a crowded public places I guess maybe. If you're proposing locking people up that seems a bit extreme.
Just out of curiosity and this isn’t meant to be mean, but, what kind of harsh consequence do you think would be appropriate for imposing that smell?
Not gp, but I think a fine is pretty reasonable.

Jogging in the park and inhaling pot constantly is getting really annoying. I know a number of families that moved to the burbs, and one of the reasons they voiced is the sharp increase is pot smell/smoke in the kids' playgrounds.

Where do you draw the line though? Body odor isn't pleasant neither is bad breath or alcohol breath. Are you suggesting a fine for those as well?
This is no doubt an unintended consequence of city ordinances/state laws that require you be X feet away from others. Where the fuck-else can you go other than a public place if you live in the city and have no yard?
Joggers in parks are also annoying. Run in the woods, forest.
Oh, I'm all in favour of "harsh consequence" for people for making bad smells. I'd start with drivers with engines that belch fumes and particulates because they are defective or out-of-adjustment.

We should aalso inflict "consequence" on the SUV drivers who clog the roads in the town I live in; I have medically-compromised lungs, so the stink of diesel fumes isn't just an annoyance for me.

Let's also punish people who use wood-fired stoves in built-up areas. I live in a smoke-controlled zone, but for some reason builders are allowed to install these stoves in new-build homes, provided the model of stove meets certain standards. Well, that's cool; if the stove itself is safe, it must be the owner, operating it incorrectly. So let's give them some consequence too.

These offences aren't much like smoking a ciggie, which last about 7 minutes; the amount of fumes produced by a ICE per minute is much greater than that produced by a smoker, and the ICE generally runs for much longer than 7 minutes. Wood-fired stoves are normally run continuously for several hours, and not for heat; they are used to generate a nostalgic and aesthetic effect. If that harms others, or even if it just creates a bad smell, let's be harsh.

I'm also keen to impose "harsh consequence" on dog owners who allow their dog to deposit smelly stuff at my front gate, and who then fail to pick up that shit and take it away with them. This is a particular problem if you get a 3-week cold snap; 3 weeks-worth of dogshit all thaws at the same time, and the smell of dogshit coming out of deep-freeze pervades entire neighbourhoods. And of course, pot-smoke doesn't contain toxoplasmosis.

Hey, we wouldn't have to stand around outside if the busybodies hadn't stopped us lighting up in bars.
Hopefully somebody introduces this. Weed stinks and people who smoke it outdoors are as much a nuisance as people who smoke cigarettes. Both should be legal but banned from any public places.
To be consistent we would have to ban cars for the same reason too. At least near where people live or work.
Also many perfumes and colognes. Some can be incredibly overwhelming.
No, cars and cigarettes are known to cause far more substantial health effects to those around. By what instinct does one find oneself tempted to compare bad smell to cancer and asthma?
Harsh? Like caning, or what?

Do you fart in public? Should your butt be plugged in public too?

I’m with you on the fines. It’s about as pleasant as snooting up someone else’s bowel contents on a train.

It is antisocial behaviour, has a health impact and needs to have a consequence.