[oxymoran]

And also clearly have never been high enough to realize that they are more likely to be super paranoid and going 10 miles under the speed limit than driving through a fence or running over children. It’s not at all comparable to being drunk.

[JshWright]

Driving high is still driving impaired. The failure modes may be different, but that doesn't mean someone who is high is safe to drive.

I'm not sure what the point of your comment is though, as I don't think anyone is suggesting that these drivers will actually be high while driving. Rather, they are people that use marijuana recreationally and would test positive for THC, disqualifying them from many jobs (despite the fact that urine THC levels do not corelate with how "high" someone is).

[wordsarelies]

Driving high is like driving as a grandma.

You're hyper vigilant, looking everywhere, your reactions are delayed a little such as that of an 60 year old person, and you're definitely listening to speed "limit" as the maximum, and not as the average.

[junon]

As an avid marijuana user here, no, this is not the narrative that should be spread. As others have said, weed makes you incredibly impaired, just in other ways.

You are slower to process inputs, you are less likely to consider threats or obstacles as dangerous, to an extent your ability to judge distances is hindered, you are much more easily distracted (highway hypnosis, for example, becomes a huge problem - especially with blinking lights and whatnot), your ability to focus is oftentimes next to zero, causing you to be distracted often by music or other passengers in the car.

Plus, driving slowly in and of itself is a hazard - the "speed rule" exists for a reason. If everyone is going 30 mph over the speed limit on a busy highway, you are more likely to cause an accident by going the posted speed limit than if you were to go the same speed as the rest of the traffic - even though it's technically illegal.

So please, do not use marijuana and drive. Stay at home and watch Money Heist and postmates a McFlurry from McDonalds or something.

[batch12]

When high, you are impaired and shouldn't be driving. Period.

[crazy_horse]

I don't disagree but being high is not a singular, impaired state.

[junon]

None of the states I've ever been, over the thousands of times I have partaken, with the maybe hundred different strains, with different percentages of indica/sativa, at different dosages, in different forms (flower vs. edible vs. whatever else), have ever been safe for me to operate a vehicle.

No, nobody is an exception. You are not superhuman.

Please stop normalizing this. This narrative makes it harder to change the minds of dissenters and legitimize legalization for those people that actually benefit from it.

[crazy_horse]

Sorry, I don't agree. I don't think cannabis is just a drug for having fun. I'm open to scientific studies that show that car accidents increase but your experience is yours and mine is mine.

The people who have a problem with it aren't going to be able to stop legalization.

You shouldn't do it, I agree.

[bserge]

Yes that third one is a huge problem.

[throwaway0a5e]

Your comment is an equally bad generalization.

It's easy to get distracted and then focus on that distraction while high. That's not conducive to safe driving. We don't want people mindlessly blowing through an intersection because they were fixating on how the wind was making the tarp on the truck in front of them flutter.

[bserge]

No, please. I've seen high driving first hand several times. Once after the guy literally told me "it doesn't affect me at all". Proceeded to drive over the kerb and get into the wrong lane.

It is very comparable to being drunk. Some people can in fact handle it, many cannot and severely overestimate their abilities.

[fhood]

tbf it's possible he was just a crap driver. Either way, while I would never recommend it, I think it is misleading to call it "very comparable". Anecdotally I would say that cannabis impairs quick decision making, and reaction time while driving, and possibly also makes the driver more prone to distraction but I am less sure about that one. Alcohol does both of the first two things, and to a much greater extent, while also obliterating fine motor control, as well as impacting judgement and perception of speed among other things.

So in my completely anecdotal opinion, weed bad, alcohol worse were driving is concerned.

[hughrr]

That’s bullshit. Someone rolled their car into my front garden at 70+ mph in a 30 mph limit on it.

The only good thing was it was at 3AM so there was no one around on a normally busy street to get wiped out.

And your whole attitude of irrational justification of it says you’re probably not capable of making a rational judgement about whether or not you should drive.

[eurasiantiger]

Anecdote is not data.

[hughrr]

That’s also bullshit. This went into the stats here. Thus is data.

[haswell]

Since when is asking for data considered bullshit? So far, you’ve only provided anecdotes.

I assume you know what the parent comment meant when talking about “data”.

Don’t get me wrong - no one should drive while impaired, period. But offering anecdotes in lieu of data is generally not helpful.

[quickthrowman]

It was 3 AM, they were drunk

[hughrr]

No they weren’t. Apologists everywhere.