[phoobahr]

Well just try using google in China for one thing.

I really don't get the outragefilter here - Apple (take 'em or leave 'em) lays out for the public a system for checking uploaded content for illicit material that everyone else is already checking for and just didn't tell you. And somehow the disclosure is reason to get pissy?

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying the only alternative is to love the largest corp that's ever existed because that's a dumb-ass false dichotomy. I just don't understand the vitriol expressed in certain quarters over this issue when you know that the rest of FAANG, and smaller players, are doing no less and never even bothered to figure out how to do so with even an iota of respect for their users. Hell y'know google's using your photo backups to sell you advertising at least, training models in the mid, and at worst going to comb through everything you ever brought within their arms reach the moment local law enforcement makes them. If they're not doing so already.

[nbzso]

I really don't get how mildly or not technically educated people cannot comprehend the massive difference between scanning on servers (company property) and scanning on user device (user property). And the next level of madness - scanning with third party non-auditable (due to sensitivity of the material) parameters. I think we collectively are having "frozen mind" moment. Just move along, nothing is happening here. Even worst, comparing the most powerful company with full spy devices ecosystem and mass adoption with GNU and Free software. Apple is worst than every totalitarian government because Apple is the gateway for policing and monitoring. And they don't care. You will comply because they are looking at the numbers and they know that you are have sick minds. Just look at the timeline of events. Public reaction over Pegasus/NSO - Apple mumbles some technical shit, no real response. Weeks after this Apple announces CSAM scanning, cryptography specialist and organizations explode with reaction - Apple sends Federighi to WSJ. After more than 20 days they announce that some states will adopt digital ID as a convenient way to policing. The biggest corporation on the world is becoming a reliable governments partner and people "have nothing to hide". At this point in time I say: You will get what you deserve people.