[lucideer]

> Twitter is probably the best, most responsive web app I've ever used

What machine are you running it on?

I'm a regular Twitter user and it is hands down the slowest most unresponsive webapp I use: worse than Slack or Gmail.

Fwiw probably the best complex responsive webapp I use is YouTube (loathe as I am to compliment anything produced by Google's web frontend teams as the rest of their webapps have been consistently poor for so long)

[cyberpsybin]

What universe are you living in? Slack and GMail are horrendous compared to twitter. Twitter loads almost instantaneously. Only web app that correctly handles infinite scroll.

[lucideer]

I'm living in a universe where Slack and Gmail are horrendous yes. That's why I brought them up as examples of low bars. Twitter is somehow even worse.

There's nothing "correct" about Twitter's infinite scroll: back button is never quite sure where in the timeline it should bring you. Occasionally the top or your last position, but most frequently a random tweet somewhere in between.

But the major issue isn't UX: I don't find it as bad as some here say. The real problem is the abysmal performance. Not just the load time (the page loads blank, then starts loading actual content) but then after everything is loaded every single interaction comes with enormous UI lag. Literally an active click-wait-click-wait cycle.

[SilasX]

Wait, what? What's horrendous about Gmail? It's one of the few sites that's predictable, gets out of my way, has a smooth workflow, and doesn't leave me shouting, "WTF? Why would you do that?"

The only issues I remember having are that sometimes label autocomplete is flaky and sometimes the new emails take too long to show up.[1] It has good support for vim-like keyboard shortcuts as well.

Don't want to sound like a shill, but I've found Gmail to be an outlier.

[1] There was also the April Fools "mic drop" feature where you could accidentally mute a conversation but I didn't experience that personally.

[heavyset_go]

Try opening a few Gmail tabs on a machine that's more than a few years old or has a relatively low amount of memory. It might be an okay experience if opening Gmail is literally the only thing you're doing with the machine.

[SilasX]

I’ve done that before, for working with multiple email accounts, and don’t remember it interfering with system memory needs.

Although google has had a huge problem with keeping accounts separate in the same browser, but that’s not a gmail thing.

[iamevn]

my favorite is when I open a thread from a tweet partway through and try to scroll before the page finishes fully loading. it dumps you way back at the top