[bayesian_horse]

Just google Ivermectin. There is no shortage of information. No sane honest person can portray that list of side effects as less than those seen with the vaccine. There is no such thing as a "safe" medication, it's always a risk-benefit analysis and dose-dependency.

It is complete insane bullshit to believe those vaccines might somehow exhibit "long term" side effects that have eluded the whole world for more than six months after hundreds of millions of applications. No vaccine has ever done that, not even those who didn't make it through clinical trials.

[refurb]

If you stated that 2nd paragraph at an FDA meeting you’d be laughed out of the room.

Voixx was pulled from the market 5 years after approval when they finally determined it caused heart attacks. It took a lot of work to figure that out. There a multiple examples of fatal or severe side effects popping up years later. And every single one said “weve never seen it before” or “there is no scientific reason it should do that”.

The landscape is littered with drugs where people waved their hands and said “there is no way this drug is harmful” and that we’re subsequently found to be so.

Not saying people shouldn’t get vaccinated, I did. But your claim is ridiculous.

[bayesian_horse]

Note: you are talking about drugs, not vaccines. There is a big difference in how they act and especially in the frequency they are given. This results in significant differences in the associated risks.

And even then, in the case of Voixx it was a comparison against other drugs that ultimately made regulators pull the plug. Additionally, the manufacturer concealed the side effects, so the argument about long-term effects is even weaker.

[fcurts]

The insanity is to be more afraid of unknown risks of vaccination than known risks of infection and the risk of relying on unproven treatments that are harmful or ineffective.

[deodorel]

Actually there was that flu vaccine that triggered narcolepsy very rarely in young people after 12 - 24 months. But this is the only example i heard of.

[bayesian_horse]

Yes, but very rarely, and the cost/benefit analysis would still be positive, as compared to the virus that virtually everyone will eventually get.

Also that particular virus also caused narcolepsy, rarely, by a similar immunological mechanism.