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by smoldesu 1754 days ago
> But the biggest problem with PGP is how difficult it is for people to use simply. "It’s a real pain," says Green. "There’s key management – you have to use it in your existing email client, and then you have to download keys, and then there’s this whole third issue of making sure they’re the right keys."

How is this PGP's fault? The computing world has had 24 years to catch up with the standard, and frankly it does everything listed here out of the box on Linux. Microsoft, Apple and Google have all been dragging their feet in the sand when it comes to actually implementing it, so the onus really falls on them as far as I can tell.

PGP is still Pretty Good Privacy: not perfect by any means, but a considerable step up from plaintext. Maybe there are credible threats to it's security, but most people reading this will probably be dead before it's implemented.

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> you have to use it in your existing email client, and then you have to download keys, and then there’s this whole third issue of making sure they’re the right keys.

If you use Thunderbird as your email client, then it will download the right keys for you automatically.[0]

Actually it's two clicks to use the WKD support to download the key (assuming your correspondent's email provider supports that, as ProtonMail does[1]) or the keys are already downloaded if they are included as an attachment or as a header (which is the case if your correspondent is using a client that supports Autocrypt[2]).

As with other E2E encrypted systems, you should check these keys(' fingerprints) out of band, otherwise your security only follows the TOFU model, but this is still a huge improvement over non-PGP email and doesn't require any special understanding of cryptography.

[0] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/openpgp-thunderbird-how...

[1] https://protonmail.com/blog/security-updates-2019/

[2] https://autocrypt.org/

Wait, wait, wait. ProtonMail only supports WKD lookups for desktop. I've had an open request for years to their support team to implement WKD lookups on mobile. As ProtonMail is the only PGP email provider with any mass traction, at this point it's just a middle finger to people who prefer to control their own selfhosted mailservers.

I can't expect any PM user is going to be able to send me PGP encrypted mail when many emails start from a mobile device.

I was curious about this problem, and found that the pull request for "Implement WKD" (in the web app) was merged[0] in December 2019, and there is a bug report[1] from October 2020 complaining that the Android app can't look up (some) WKD keys. That bug was last updated in November 2020 and is still open.

[0] https://github.com/ProtonMail/proton-contacts/pull/338

[1] https://github.com/ProtonMail/proton-mail-android/issues/44