[Syonyk]

That's the problem.

There aren't any anymore. Everything is out of China.

I've been using some cheaper ARM stuff, but I can't verify Pine's supply chains either, beyond "Erratic." So unlikely to be as close to forced labor as Apple's are, especially during new product season.

[scoopertrooper]

This is the height of silliness. You don't want to use Apple products because they get their products assembled in China by Foxconn (a Taiwanese company). However, your solution is to buy "cheaper ARM stuff" such as Pine products, because you assume their factory conditions will be less dickensian despite also being manufactured in China.

You know about the bad conditions in the Foxconn factory because of the notoriety of the companies (Apple and Google) that get their products assembled there. However, it's likely that the conditions at Foxconn are better than those at the fly-by-night operators employed by Pine, which are subject to less scrutiny. Companies like Pine also have less ability (and incentive) to press for better conditions.

If you really wanted to use products with the least manufacturing footprint in China, you'd be looking at Samsung and Sony devices, but I guess they're not edgy enough for you.