[zumu]

> The thinkpads (at least the X,T and P models) tend to be a different story but even that is changing in recent years

Maybe relative to Thinkpads of yesteryear, but in comparison to the field of professional laptops, they are still best in class.

[m00x]

I bought a consumer-grade Lenovo (Flex 15") for about $1200 CAD.

While it has amazing components like the AMD Ryzen, Radeon GPU, etc. The quality of the rest of the components is trash.

The trackpad keeps disconnecting, the screen is very poorly backlit, the speakers sound like headphones that came with 1990 Walkmans. It's not a good laptop even if it looks good on paper.

[zumu]

Yea, I've heard mixed things about IdeaPads. My comment was specifically about _Think_Pads. The names are easy to confuse but are very different in build quality.