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by dralley 1751 days ago
If you read the instructions, they basically say that you still need a Linux VM or WSL environment to run Podman in. Which makes it not a complete replacement for Docker desktop, which handles the VM for you. So OP isn't wrong.
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Conan_Kudo 1751 days ago
Podman 3.3 and up has `podman machine`, which is supposed to do this for you...
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kristjansson 1751 days ago
Apparently it's already deprecated https://github.com/boot2podman/machine ?
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dralley 1750 days ago
That's an unrelated tool named "podman-machine". "podman machine", as in the subcommand to "podman" proper, is not deprecated.
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Dylan16807 1751 days ago
So that's a couple hours for the first dev to make a list of WSL setup instructions or a VM template, and 5 minutes each for every dev after.
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hiram112 1751 days ago
Does Mac have any sort of built-in VM framework like Hyper-V?

I did not know that running basic Linux VMs was something you could do without downloading VMware or Virtual Box - which isn't as easy as just running a few scripts (especially in corporate environments where Brew and other tools might not be so readily available to all employees).

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ingve 1751 days ago
> Does Mac have any sort of built-in VM framework like Hyper-V?

Two, actually. Hypervisor.framework [0] to build virtualization solutions on top of a lightweight hypervisor, without third-party kernel extensions, and Virtualization.framework, to create virtual machines and run Linux-based operating systems.

[0] https://developer.apple.com/documentation/hypervisor?languag...

[1] https://developer.apple.com/documentation/virtualization?lan...

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hiram112 1750 days ago
Thanks for the tip. I will have to take a look. It'd be nice if there were some github repos out there that leveraged this to make experimenting with Linux distros (including Desktop environments) as seamless as it is with VMWare Workstation - where things like high DPI resolution, copy & paste, etc. just work without too much trouble.
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Dylan16807 1751 days ago
I meant that for windows. I don't have enough experience with mac to give great answers.

> downloading VMware or Virtual Box - which isn't as easy as just running a few scripts (especially in corporate environments where Brew and other tools might not be so readily available to all employees).

Docker Desktop needs the same level of access, because it runs virtual machines. If you could install it on your own, can't you install those on your own? If it was centrally managed, then IT can switch to one of those programs instead.

> Does Mac have any sort of built-in VM framework like Hyper-V?

Yosemite added Hypervisor.framework, I guess?

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