[mirekrusin]

The best enterprice architects I worked with don't know shit. They can plot 3 boxes with 4 arrows and call it a day. They can take credit for working system, it doesn't matter. What really matters is that they don't waste time on useless preplanning, don't give you (as tech lead/senior dev) solutions to implement, but problems to solve. They don't know how to solve integration problems, but they know how to click to schedule teams meeting with people who take care of those systems. Solution is usually easily agreed between tech people during those calls/folloups. Architect is able to wrap it in power point presentation with 2 boxes and 1 arrow and call it integration solution. It sounds like a joke, but I'm serious.

[HillRat]

Speaking as a — now former — architect, I’d agree! The best use of my time always turned out to be dealing with scope and feature risk, areas of ambiguity, and governance. Part of this is because very few software projects hinge their success on complex and elegant solutions to thorny conceptual problems, but also because competent developers generally don’t need an architect doing much more than sketching out the broad contours for them to get in and design/build the system; what they really need from the architect is client alignment, well-defined feature scope and dependencies, locked down RACIs, realistic team sizes and schedules, and just enough governance to keep everything on track without overmanagement. A successful architect, in other words, is technically-competent enough to figure out what has to go into the solution (which crosses many disciplinary boundaries) and what the overall project size roughly looks like, but the second they try to create detailed technical plans they’re wasting time and money.

[whoknowswhat11]

Thank goodness to hear from some folks with some sense here :) Feature creep risk is REAL. For some reason the new swapped out system all of a sudden has to support 20 incompatible features!

[Aeolun]

Hmm, yeah. The worst ones are the ones that think they actually know coding, or how a system should be implemented.

But mostly it’s annoying since we spend hours or days going around in circles until we arrive at the obvious solution (which the engineering team proposed at the start).

[spaetzleesser]

" Architect is able to wrap it in power point presentation with 2 boxes and 1 arrow and call it integration solution. "

That sounds very true. I am always joking that I could probably "architect" our whole Fortune 500 company in a few days.

In sense an architect should be mainly coordinator and communicator. Find alignment and make sure everybody does their part. Detect problems and get everybody back on the same page.

[TeeMassive]

I agree with this. They know most of the parts, what works smoothly and what needs more love, and they talk to people. Then they can give an informed advice with a few UML diagrams and a few code examples.

[orthoxerox]

We must've worked with the same architects!