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by 0xCMP 1749 days ago
I planned to comment on the conclusion as well. I think these protocols often do not handle things well enough and in the end the apps out there do not implement them properly anyways. You always end up building some kind of CRUD/RPC thing that works via HTTP/WebSocket which is why things like Todoist and etc work well and are able to add the features everyone wants in the end.
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vbsteven 1748 days ago
This is what I concluded as well. The end goal for my desired system is to make it straightforward to hook into events so I can add automation.

This turns out to be very hard to do based on CalDAV/WebDAV protocols because many clients and services implement the spec differently or only parts of it.

That's why I switched my approach and I'm writing my own backend storage layer that has my desired event system builtin on that layer (Using Kotlin/JVM for the backend, postgres for storage and MQTT for pub-sub to events). On top of that storage/api layer I'm building CalDAV/WebDAV support so external clients can connect to it.

Having my own HTTP+MQTT API makes it a lot easier to build modern clients as well. In fact because I chose Kotlin/JVM as my baseline and have already written a pure Kotlin client library I'm making a lot of progress on both desktop, android and cli tools to interact with the system.

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scns 1748 days ago
Nice, good choice IMSO. Kotlin Native Multiplatform Mobile would make an iOs app less porting work. Only the UI/Views would differ, ViewModels, http client and DB can be shared via Ktor and SQLDelight.
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vbsteven 1748 days ago
Currently I'm doing JVM only using Retrofit and Jackson instead of Ktor. Mostly because I know the JVM ecosystem best and supports all my target platforms. It's delightful to work in a big monorepo that shares API models all the way from the backend to the clients.
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ByteWelder 1748 days ago
Will it be open source? I'd consider helping with that. (Android/Kotlin dev with API/backend experience)
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vbsteven 1748 days ago
The backend and client libraries will be fully open source. That's the only way a self-hosted project like this can work.

I'm not sure about the android/desktop apps. I might keep them commercial for a bit to experiment with an open-core monetization strategy.

Give me a couple weeks to iron out architecture details and write some design docs and then I'll publish the project on GitHub. Shoot me an email if you're interested.

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asymmetric 1748 days ago
> You always end up building some kind of CRUD/RPC thing that works via HTTP

Isn't that what WebDAV is?

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