[PragmaticPulp]

> If having access to the machines means that you can affect the results of the elections

They disabled the security cameras and did something with election equipment, which is now set aside as evidence.

They need to investigate. This would have happened if it was a paper voting machine or a ballot box with votes in it.

This isn’t a “conspiracy theorists are correct” moment. This is a show that the voting system does indeed have protections and supervision around it that identities tampering and resets the supply chain.

[aristophenes]

It's good to also think about security of paper ballots. Usually, in the United States, public observers from all political parties are allowed to be at all polling places and observe (and help count) all the votes. There is a limited amount of time between the vote and the count, and in that time anyone can watch to make sure nothing is tampered with.

This is why people get uncomfortable with vote counting taking too long or ballots being moved and stored before counting is done. The accountability is gone and whoever controls the process has the ability to tamper.

If these machines need to be observed at all times to prevent tampering, just forget about it. It's unrealistic. Even if they can be protected the public can't trust that, the only people who could truly confirm that would be the people who are in the position to tamper with them.

The Mesa County Clerk wasn't trying to hide what they were doing. If any other County Clerk wanted to tamper and not hide, well we wouldn't be having this discussion because no one would know about it, even if there is a video feed on the machines. Has this happened anywhere else? Can you, as a citizen, confirm no other voting machines in Colorado (or elsewhere) have been tampered with?

[bediger4000]

Your issues with vote counting taking too long are decent, but the Colorado 2024 election, didn't take too long. Cory Gardner conceded on election night, for example. Since only a particular election is contested by these... conspiracy theorists..., and nobody is trying to get Gardner reinstated I have to conclude something else motivates these... conspiracy theorists...

The Mesa County clerk is indeed trying to hide what she did. I believe she's on the lam, and in hiding right now. It looks to me like the Mesa County clerk took it upon herself to foul the process in illegal ways because the CO procedures worked, despite whatever legal things that Clerk could do. This seems like a pretty standard technique for overthrowing a democratically-elected government: manufacture a scandal, throw out the real results, put in fake results, pass new laws preventing any of your political opponents from taking office ever again.

We're at the "manufacture a scandal" stage.

[mrlonglong]

2024? Are you from the future or something?

[dane-pgp]

Obviously the count took less than -2 years, which is even quicker than getting an instant result.

[bediger4000]

Don't be pedantic. I'm arguing in good faith here, typos are possible.

[8note]

Vote counting going too long is a partisan ensuring votes against them get counted last.

Not counting votes is a compromise favouring the party that ran the election.

You shouldn't put them away and start the next day, sure, but you should definitely not stop counting