[jaxx75]

Looking forward to see where you go. I used forums primarily for my automotive hobbies, but they all seemed to have died around 2013-2015 as Facebook groups took over. Still, forums are often the best place to find good information. I worry about the day that Facebook solves the search and weekly "repeat topic" problems that are the only thing holding it back.

It's a shame phpbb, vbullettin and other big players in the space were too slow to adapt to mobile.

[OJFord]

> It's a shame phpbb, vbullettin and other big players in the space were too slow to adapt to mobile.

Was that a problem? My memory is that everything used 'Tapatalk' for mobile, perhaps before the first iPhone even (I recall using it on an iPod Touch).

[samtho]

I used to volunteer my time to a very major forum software. Tapatalk at the time had a very strange business model of having a plug-in/add-on that was free to the forum owner but charged for the app that the end user used. This was, even at the time, traditionally backwards from the current user interaction model: path of least resistance to engagement. It was unpopular among forum admins as they would rather buy a license for it like you would with vBulletin, Xenforo, Invision Power Board - including the people who ran open source ones like phpBB, SMF, et al.

While I understand Tapatalk have changed their business model since then, the damage was already done as the Facebook started to wholesale eat forums’ lunch as far as userbase. The biggest problem is that we never turned forum interactions into a protocol like we did with at the application level (smtp/pop, http, irc, xmpp) or on top of http like RSS, podcasts, or just plain, standardized REST APIs. This could have enabled multiple clients (like browsers) to appear and may have prevented facebooks swift dominance with online communities.

Everyone wanted to own their forum’s experience, but this stubbornness caused the fiction for users to sign up to be greater and greater. Platforms like Disqus attempted to solve this by creating an embeddable service to just drop comments in a context like a blog post, but this ultimately gave users almost no value it they were just in a shouting match against bots with generic messages laden with spam.

Facebook unified the experience for users, where the user could, with an account+app that they already had, browse and join groups and engage in discussions and become apart of communities in a way that forums could not possibly compete with.

[OJFord]

Oh yes! I'd forgotten that aspect. Was there not anything you could do for free?

I wasn't involved with the hosting/software/ops etc. side of it at all, but I moderated 'The Computer Forum', latterly 'Computer Juice', and used it mainly with that. I fondly remember wasting an awful lot of time helping people solve Windows problems (haven't used it since.. not saying that's related..) and spec new builds.

I suppose that's all happening on StackExchange and probably some DIY custom pc Discord server or whatever these days.

[eropple]

It was, and it was pretty terrible.