[eps]

I have a manual grinder (Hario) and I really don't like how long it takes to grind the damn things with it. IMNSHO it adds to much friction to the process /rimshot/ and makes it that much less enjoyable. Caveat emptor, basically.

[BlackLotus89]

What kind of burrs? If it's the usual cheap hand grinder (hario slim) it got a ceramic burrset which is not only slow (3 times as slow as my favourite the 1zpresso), but has a bad distribution.

If you don't need espresso fine grounds buy a timemore c2, normcore or 1zpresso jx.

If you want to brew espresso take the 1zpresso jx pro.

Edit: all those recommendations are best band for the buck. For an equal electric grinder you will pay a hefty extra. For the same quality the cheapest electric grinder I could find was more than double the price. I don't want to pay 150€ for a motor

[nickflood]

A little bit related: I've got a latest Hario Slim (https://www.amazon.de/-/en/gp/aw/d/B01GPMH590), and it has a hexagonal post for the handle. Using a 7mm hex wrench in a cordless screwdriver makes it an automatic grinder (not pleasant, but very cheap for how it performs)

[httpsterio]

Yeah, if you have to grind more than one cup each time, it can get a bit tiresome. I got my first electric grinder after a few months of cranking it by hand.

But for many, it's also just a part of the ritual and charm. I mean, if you really go at it, it shouldn't take more than 20 seconds per cup.

[eps]

I must've been doing it wrong, but it was in a minutes range for a single cup fo me and it was more annoying than anything else.

[httpsterio]

Apply more force and vigor!

[smartbit]

I enjoy the daily morning routine of grinding 25gr filter roast with a Commandante. Takes about 2-3 minutes.

https://www.comandantegrinder.com/

[httpsterio]

The same amount takes roughly 10 seconds with my Baratza grinder :) I don't really care for hand grinding myself anylonger but if I had to choose between a hand grinder and store ground, I'd always pick the grinder.