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by bpodgursky 1754 days ago
We have different views about what is humane. I struggle to understand yours, but that's OK.
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I hope you never are homeless, drug addicted, or mentally ill. I have been all of these things. I can tell you first-hand forcing people to comply makes things worse.

That you don't care about someone's wishes is deeply indicative of your own moral character -- or lack thereof. That we can't even agree to disagree turns my stomach a bit. I'm deeply disappointed, and you've made it very clear to me that I need to walk away from this "community".

So, my final thought will simply be this:

Silicon Valley and their enablers, through their arrogance, short sightedness, and dare I say.. general lack of humanity are creating a dystopian nightmare. In many places, that nightmare already exists in full force. That you don't or can't see it doesn't matter. It's well underway and it won't leave any of us untouched.

The dystopian nightmare is the thousands of people living in filth on the streets of SF, living and dying short and brutal lives.

If I'm ever drug addicted and homeless, I want you to institutionalize me until I am clean and able to resume a normal life. I'm very confused by anyone who would want anything else for themselves.

> I want...

That’s what you want again. Maybe consider what others want instead?

> I'm very confused by anyone who would want anything else

If you admit you're confused about what they want and why... leave them alone.

Yours involves forcing your world view on a vulnerable person against their will for your benefit. Theirs does not. Guess which is the moral one.
So righteousness falls upon the vulnerable?

I guess I'll tell my drug addicted cousin he's all good because he's vulnerable.

You can be moral by being against the will of someone who's lost their way.

> You can be moral by being against the will of someone who's lost their way.

Who are you to decide what their ‘way’ is supposed to be to know they’re off it?

Some parents think their gay children have lost their way and force them into ‘treatment’.

I guess you think they’re wrong and shouldn’t be allowed to do that but you’re right and should be able to do what you want?

I don’t think there’s much different between the two and both are wrong.

That's the crux of the issue isn't it. Society has to set some ground rules, no?

I'm all for live and let be, but letting vagrancy fester and destroy cities where other people want to live is where I draw the line.

Well, certainly we can agree to disagree.