| > There are debates over why the least vulnerable, healthy populations are subject to the same restrictions as the obese and elderly. The studies are still out, but early reports are showing that delta is hitting more than just the old and the fat [1]. In particular, pregnant woman seem to be at particularly high risk of death. [2] The problem with these communicable disease is they can mutate. Delta appears to be breaking a lot of the older assumptions about who is at risk. Perhaps that's because the older population is better vaccinated than the younger population and delta is just more deadly for all. > If obesity is a risk factor and we have a "collective responsibility", then why hasn't the gov mandated exercise? Because whether or not you exercise does not change your ability to spread COVID. It may improve your chances of survival but it does not change the burden one way or another on how you are affecting society around. Further, it will take months/years to lose enough weight to eventually move out of the risk category for COVID. A vaccine takes minutes. > And if this were untrue, where would we see this information? Are there no other incentives we should be considering, such as the great reset, vaccine passports, digital ID, CBDCs or even vanilla economic interventions? We're dealing with a trust deficit in public figures and media institutions. It is hard to blame the cynic for previous incidents of propaganda. The trust problem is precisely from propaganda. It's because, frankly, Trump kept saying "fake news" and casting doubt on experts without a shred of evidence backing his assertions. Pushing untested and unproven medications which ultimately spawned the "ivermectin" crowd which is now taking horse dewormer to try and combat covid. The deficit because an autocrat got power and pulled the typical move of an autocrat. The experts have been straight through covid. It's the yellow journalists and russian interference [3] that have been spitting out mistrust where none existed previously. [1] https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/view/younger-people-in... [2] https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-icus-doctor... [3] https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/docu... |
Yes, but under your theory of collectivism, we all have a responsibility to protect these obese individuals via authoritarian measures. Therefore, if they were not obese, we would not be burdened by the collective responsibility they impose upon us.
I'm disappointed that you've brought Trump into the discussion. I'm not a fan of the political classes as a rule, so it pains me to defend him here. He was recently panned for recommending the vaccine to his followers at a rally in Alabama.
As for autocracy, it seems a bit ironic to level this accusation in a discussion defending authoritarian lockdowns and medical interventions.
If you can't see any other problems with the mainstream political landscape outside of your focus on Mr. Trump, then there's really nothing more to say here. I could cite Iraqi WMD, Snowden's revelations, Obama's Nobel Peace Prize, the lab leak controversy or a number of other incidents, but it seems futile at this point.
When you play the Trump card you reveal your hand as a partisan.