[tellersid]

I am an American but I completely resonate with Confucian values when it comes to work and learning.

The most insulting thing to me would be to be called lazy. I can see as a society with that many people though this would naturally go too far.

In the West, we are not lazy but delusional as a society. We are the boxing champion that has quit hard training because they think they can't be beat. This is pretty natural after being the champ for so long. We don't need to train, we can just party and still win. That works until the younger talented hungry competitor comes along and you get knocked out. A tale as old as boxing, a tale as old as human history.

[ChefboyOG]

Did you just call Rocky IV "a tale as old as human history?"

[throwaway284534]

Well, to be generous, Gilgamesh did suffer from a boredom so severe that his own people begged the gods to bring him an equal. After Enkidu showed up, he spent more time adventuring and fighting mythical creatures, instead of wrestling the townsfolk and enjoying the perks of prima nocta.