[derkster]

Talking about these issues at the individual level when it should talked about in broader terms distorts the reality of the situation. If you try to convince "no-risk" individuals that they should get the vaccine for their own health, you're not going to get very far.

But explaining to that same 20 year old that he might unintentionally bring COVID home from college and proceed to unintentionally infect high-risk parents or grandparents? That's where the real damage would comes from.

The peace of mind knowing I'm not going to unintentionally kill off members of my family is priceless.

[bsaul]

I'm really glad you bring this argument, because it seems to me as it would be indeed the only "real" reason to have young people vaccinated..

Unfortunately, the recent news on that front don't bring much hope. Vaccinated people can be infected, and transmit the virus to elderly people (the rate at which they do being currently debated among specialist, some claiming it is much less, other claiming it is just as much as non-vaccinated asymptomatic people).

[derkster]

I would like to think that getting vaccinated helped reduce viral load enough to help limit potential mutations to some degree, but who knows.

I do know I need to be able to live with myself, and if I accidentally hurt someone I loved due to being careless in the face of a real threat - it would tear me up. I'm sure others feel the same, and I hope people can keep it up through the fatigue. :)

[bsaul]

yeah, it seems like if you're ever visiting an old relative, the better option seems to still be to get tested right before, vaccinated or not.