[faho]

What's wrong with that is the reason trademarks exist: Confusion.

If something is called "alpine-glibc", it's reasonable to expect that it's by the alpine people and supported like alpine.

This, as we see here, annoys the alpine people because they now get bug reports and support requests from people using it, and have to direct people elsewhere. And when it doesn't work, they get the hit to their image even tho they've had nothing to do with it.

[jcelerier]

It's the old Iceweasel story all over again. Sadly open-source is ill-equipped to handle naming issues.

[hhsbz]

I think it's clear from the website that this is based on Alpine and not part of the project https://hub.docker.com/r/frolvlad/alpine-glibc/

Without context, I think what this guy is pissed off about is that this project enables people to use alpine to run proprietary software.

[faho]

It doesn't outright state anywhere that it's not an official alpine product, and I don't know if everyone reads the site - many people will just copy the "FROM frolvlad/alpine-glibc" from elsewhere.

In any case, the Alpine people would know, and they apparently think it's a problem.

>Without context,

But you have context here! It has issues with symbol versioning! There is "strange behavior and possible crashes, ". This makes alpine look bad, because people think it's the alpine project's fault!

> what this guy is pissed off

Please don't assume everyone is a "guy". In this case, Ariadne is not a "he" (she uses "she"), so a male-coded word like "guy" is ill-fitting.

[im3w1l]

  FROM frolvlad/alpine-glibc

That namespacing does make it look pretty unofficial to my eyes.

[faho]

But do you know if alpine does official docker images namespaced as e.g. alpine/?

Is "alpine-glibc" an official project and someone just helpfully made the image (or an image including an official glibc package)? Or is this a prerelease?

Without a deep knowledge of alpine (or now reading this post) I couldn't answer any of these questions and I'm not sure I wouldn't try to go to alpine for bug reports. I think there's a reasonable potential for confusion, even with the namespace. (but granted, I don't use docker either, so maybe this is a common thing)

And I assume the alpine people (like the author) know that they get bug reports for it and that the issues with it cause bad publicity, and that that's the context for the post and the proposal to block the package.

[Karunamon]

The answer to the first question is an obvious yes, and it's obvious to anyone that uses Docker. No deep knowledge required.

If you want Alpine, you do FROM alpine:(version).

https://hub.docker.com/_/alpine

[ariadneconill]

The problem is the people who use Docker but don't know anything about it. Or don't know that mixing libcs is a problem. They use this glibc package, break their containers and then blame Alpine for the breakage.

[faho]

Ah, that's good to know, thanks!

[MrStonedOne]

> > what this guy is pissed off

>Please don't assume everyone is a "guy". In this case, Ariadne is not a "he" (she uses "she"), so a male-coded word like "guy" is ill-fitting.

Please do not mince words, people have a tenancy to refer to their own gender identity when referring to people who's gender identity they do not know. You knew what they meant.

from the hn guidelines:

> Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.

[burnished]

There Are No Women On The Internet, so they got corrected. It isn't a bad faith interpretation, more like a gentle correction.

[MrStonedOne]

"somebody using a generic is really suggesting that women don't exist on the internet" sounds exactly like a bad faith interpretation.

[burnished]

I'm having a hard time here - do you really not see the connection between what I'm saying, what you're saying, and the use of a default masculine pronoun?