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by dmnd 1757 days ago
I'm a parent that just taught my 4yo preschooler to read. So I'm not really your target user, but I watched the walkthrough and read the website, and here are my reactions. Hopefully something here is useful for you:

- I'm honestly baffled by spending so much time on one book (program?) in a classroom context. I imagine some kids won't be interested in the particular story, but it will go on for an entire month. I could see this damaging interest.

- The pace seems incredibly slow. To learn to read, you need to read a lot. But this is one book per month?

- The more stories a child is exposed to, the more chances there are to encounter something especially captivating for that child, and to spark an interest.

- It's hard to believe how much participation there will be without seeing an example class and interactions between the students & actor. The videos on the site make it seem like a completely passive experience.

- Craft activities seem like a distraction from reading unless the activities are grounded in literacy (e.g. letter/word games or creations). Even then I'm kind of skeptical.

- I predict you'll end up changing the name "litnerd". Being a nerd is cool on HN, but elsewhere?

All that said, I'm a fan of your mission and understand that learning to read in a classroom is going to look a lot different than learning 1:1. But I wonder if you could leave the group instruction to teachers and go direct to kids with a more Duolingo ABC-like experience, but include live instructors/actors. It'd be sort of like reading with a remote parent. Instructors could act out the story as you're doing with litnerd, but also unstick kids with reading help and mini-lessons. Basically, build a literacy-specific Young Lady's Illustrated Primer from A Diamond Age with gig economy ractors.

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Def agree about the name. Kids are assholes, and extremely self conscious. Anyone who thinks they're not aware of social concepts like being cool vs being a nerd are in for a bad time. But hey, Skool is kool, right?
Thank you for taking the time to craft such a thoughtful response. Love your feedback. My comments in order below:

- I'm honestly baffled by spending so much time on one book (program?) in a classroom context. I imagine some kids won't be interested in the particular story, but it will go on for an entire month. I could see this damaging interest.

So the program time is actually 4 active periods on one book. For longer books (higher grades and more difficult Lexile scale will have some extra designated time to ensure students can finish the book but on average it is 4 periods. This includes the watching of episodes, reading out loud, lesson plans that have to be covered as part of ELA (English Language Arts) instruction anyway. High engagement level has been core to our early success but interestingly, one of the main points for improvement from teachers is that our program can feel rushed (ie desire for more designated time). We're still working through the kinks :)

- The pace seems incredibly slow. To learn to read, you need to read a lot. But this is one book per month?

Yup. We only target 9 books ie 1 book per month. Of course, we hope that students would read far more but going from no reading to some reading and carving out "reading time" to develop the habit of reading is where we come into play. Of course schools can and should continue to foster take-home reading and after school or within school time reading outside of this.

- The more stories a child is exposed to, the more chances there are to encounter something especially captivating for that child, and to spark an interest.

I agree with this.

- It's hard to believe how much participation there will be without seeing an example class and interactions between the students & actor. The videos on the site make it seem like a completely passive experience.

Legally, we cannot share that footage at all. So I'll just have to accept your disbelief here even though I wish badly I could show you otherwise :)

- Craft activities seem like a distraction from reading unless the activities are grounded in literacy (e.g. letter/word games or creations). Even then I'm kind of skeptical.

Respectfully, I don't exactly agree with that. Esp for younger ages, craft activity is a form of sensory learning. We use craft activities built to help showcase comprehension of the unit as opposed to just phonetics (though there is that aspect too). I think just evaluating our students comprehension in one medium form is limited (again, esp for younger ages).

- I predict you'll end up changing the name "litnerd". Being a nerd is cool on HN, but elsewhere?

Come on! The cat and everything? (Lit)nerds rule! ;)

As for the final feedback on leaving the group instruction and taking a more B2C Duolingo approach (coupled with live actors), I think that's an interesting thought (and I LOVE Duolingo). I just do not philosophically want to start in the B2C go-to-market space. Majority of the kids we serve come from Title 1 schools (low income families). Presuming access to internet or even access to quiet reading space is something that doesn't always reflect the students we serve. 65% of NYC public schools are Title 1 schools. The equity aspect of being part of structured classroom time is really important to me at this time. Doesn't mean we cannot add B2C down the road though! By the way, The 'Diamond Age: Or, A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer' looks dope! Just purchased on amazon to check it out!
Given your interest in hiring art and theatre professionals to support education I think you'll love The Diamond Age. It's so relevant to what you're doing I'd assumed you must have already read it!
With regard to sharing a video of example class couldn't you set one up with paid signed off kids - they do this on Colbert all the time so there must be somewhere you can get these kids who don't mind being on TV?
I'm definitely coming at this from my own parent perspective and my some of feedback is probably more a reaction to the realities of classroom instruction than about Litnerd specifically.

I'm going to push on your deflection to legal obstacles to sharing footage though. Get parent permission and make a better example video! :)