[ocdtrekkie]

Deta Space appears to be very lacking in the product details department. I see a comment saying you can't self-host it, so it has to be on Deta's cloud, or can you even bring your own cloud provider?

Is there any technical/security guarantee's to Deta's privacy claims? For one, a casual reading of their privacy page suggests they integrate a half dozen analytics (aka monitoring) tools including Google Analytics.

[abdelhai]

Hi, CEO of Deta here. On Deta Space, self-hosting means that once the app is installed in your own personal cloud, you have full ownership of the instance and it's data. Not the developer.

We use GA in our dashboard but the apps themselves do not contain tracking. We aim to remove all tracking in the future. GA only collects web pages visits (anonymously).

[ocdtrekkie]

I would suggest you avoid redefining what self-hosting means. ;)

Are there any technical limitations to prevent Deta (or someone who compromises Deta) from accessing a user's data?

With regards to different apps installed within a user's personal cloud, is there any isolation that ensures a compromise with one app can't compromise data in other apps the user installs?

[Saris]

What is a "personal cloud" in this context?

I can't see how I could have full ownership of it since I didn't set it up and have no idea how it works. It comes across as very 'black box' and hidden behind the scenes.

Either way it's not self-hosted unless I'm the one doing the full setup from the start.

[ohyeshedid]

What is the business relationship between you and the OP?

You're both trying to redefine what everyone understands as self-hosting, in some seemingly direct ways.

[riffic]

from the looks of it, I assume Deta is some sort of PaaS, and aims to be a hybrid between Heroku and Glitch. It's an interesting space to be in, but the product's maturity leaves a lot to be desired.

If you have concerns you should probably just be using Heroku or your own homegrown solution in IaaS/Bare Metal.

[ocdtrekkie]

Well, the interesting thing is the developer experience seems to be very much like Sandstorm.io: "Publishing on Space allowed me to act like I was building this app for one person; I didn't have to worry about authentication"

But it doesn't seem to provide any real description of technical justifications to claim Deta provides "privacy".

[abdelhai]

We give every app instance it's own server (VM) and database. It is completely isolated from all other instances of the same app. The developer has no access to your app instances or their data. Take a look at our sister product for the technical details "Deta Cloud" (deta.sh)

We don't have much information on Space as we're still in the alpha stage.

[abdelhai]

Deta Space is still in developer alpha. We have a long way to go!

Deta Cloud (deta.sh) is a PaaS like Heroku. Deta Space (deta.space) on the other hand is something new we call the "personal cloud". We will announce more soon.