[_b8r0]

There's already several digital Blackwater's so to speak. HBGary Federal is the obvious unsuccessful one, but you also have much more successful ones like Endgame Security.

Personally my view is that the 'physical' Blackwaters of the world haven't demonstrated an awful lot of adherence to the moral requirements associated with such work, so why would the virtual ones do the same? If you sanction a company with the ethics of Blackwater to do offensive work, do you really think they only side they're ever going to fight on is yours? Do you think that they'd represent your interests, or theirs, and do you think there'd be any hope of the kind of transparency or limitations that you'd at least expect to see in a state run equivalent?

[lawnchair_larry]

What indication do you have that endgame is successful?

Also, General Dynamics AIS.

[_b8r0]

I think a lot is down to how you define success. They had a successful Series A round, but in itself I wouldn't consider that success in itself.

I've seen a few things where I've been told it's from Endgame and I have to say that there's no way that the information contained could've been acquired in any way that could be construed as lawful under UK law (bear in mind that our computer crime laws are garbage, but that's another discussion), although I don't have any financial information.

[lawnchair_larry]

I see - I saw the pricing sheet from endgame that was leaked, but it was not clear to me if anyone is really buying their services, and I am in the industry (doing not shady things). So I was just curious.