[axegon_]

> - nollie fs 180 and fakie fs 180 (fs half cab) are two different directions: nollie fs 180 is in front of you and fakie fs 180 is behind you going blind

That is till this day(12 years since I last set foot on a skateboard) the most illogical thing. Especially when combined with board slides which were also not apparent from the start(for years on I called front side board slide back side) and from a logical perspective the lip slide names made a lot more sense. That said, I never figured out how to classify nollie/fakie board and lip slides front or back. As far as experience I also never understood why were hard flips called hard(I learned how to do them in less than 15 minutes after I first decided to give them a go).

[fokinsean]

Well, the "logic" for fakie is that your tail remains the reference even though you are popping backwards. Therefore you would spin the same direction for fakie fs 180 as you would for regular fs 180.

> I never figured out how to classify nollie/fakie board and lip slides front or back

Yep this one still trips me up to and is great argument over some beers. Especially when you introduce flip tricks into them as well :p

[jwilber]

The rail tricks are simple if you just think of whether it’s your toes (fs) or heel (bs) facing the obstacle and ignore any body turn motion.

[odessacubbage]

all these terms originated from skating pools so you have to visualize them relative to your position on a transition as opposed to flat. fs/bs is quite literally how you are facing the the wall while fakie is simply treated as the inverse of your natural position.