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by watwut 1759 days ago
> Us westerners like to look at > "The Taliban" as some evil anti-women hate group but what most woke westerners are too scared to bring up is that this is Islam in it's barest of forms. Especially among illiterate peoples. The Taliban has ridiculous support and has had it for the longest time primarily because many people want the sort of religious regime

Those are not mutually exclusive. You write about it as if there was contradiction and they somehow were not women hating as proven by them being religious.

They are exactly that. Besides, misogyny and authoritarianism/violence are related almost everywhere.

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The world may be 2021, but their lifestyle is still that of hundreds of years earlier. If western ideology is correct, why not let them sort it themselves out and get to the point where we are? My problem is most westerners love to criticize anything less free than themselves, but don't take a step back and realize we shouldn't be criticizing. What we consider unjust they may not. We tried banning dolphin fishing internationally even though many asian countries have eaten them for centuries. All because we think dolphins are nice animals. But who the hell are we to tell some other cultures, their value system is inferior to ours?

That is what I'm getting at. These systems have been around longer than westerners have been able to argue about them. And they will definitely be here to stay. Also, in a decentralized and failing state that is Afghanistan, a theological junta wouldn't be so bad for them now seeing as it's a structure many know. Injustices happen everywhere worldwide. The system the Taliban is reinforcing (yet again...) is hardly something as unethical as a corrupt and failing democracy where women can't even trust the law to protect them.

> The world may be 2021, but their lifestyle is still that of hundreds of years earlier.

First of all, Afghanistan was not always Taliban country. There was huge amount of people living completely different lifestyle - women in miniskirts were normal. Until invasion of Russian armies in the process of exporting communism and eventual victory of Taliban via arms.

> If western ideology is correct, why not let them sort it themselves out and get to the point where we are?

This is not fight of ideologies, but of violence. Second, this is an odd theory of history in which "right" ideology wins and nothing in history confirms that. As good feel this theory is, it is not how world works.

> Also, in a decentralized and failing state that is Afghanistan, a theological junta wouldn't be so bad for them now seeing as it's a structure many know.

This is not theological junta tho.

> Injustices happen everywhere worldwide. The system the Taliban is reinforcing (yet again...) is hardly something as unethical as a corrupt and failing democracy where women can't even trust the law to protect them.

It is hard to parse this. Injustices happen everywhere, some places more then others. Some places are more cruel and unjust than others. Taliban is among those more oppressive and unjust.

> where women can't even trust the law to protect them.

Women have better protection ... pretty much everywhere else. For instance, forced marriages to taliban fighters are still a thing, for instance. It is absurd how you minimize level of violence and basically slavery half population is subject of.

Just because Americans failed to achieve goals does not mean that Taliban is not as cruel, injust or oppressive toward half of population as it is. Pretending otherwise might make you feel better, but it does not make it reality.