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by skinkestek 1764 days ago
> I can't describe how incredibly stupid this is. This is peak dystopia. An absurd example from history - "maybe we should rethink the Inquisition, no? They are kidnapping and torturing people based on no evidence" "Don't be a downer!".... "Let's brainstorm on this religion thing a bit with its pointless wars, flying airplanes into buildings and killing people?" "If you don't have anything good to say, don't."

Did you misread something or am I misunderstanding you?

(If you meant to support me I misunderstood and the rest does probably not apply.)

Following you example I'm exhorting the people who say we should just give in and let the powers that be continue their inquisition or what not.

> Now - Matrix and Signal exists, but it takes two to tango. If you have no one to message there, because everybody uses iMessage/WhatsApp/Messenger, you are screwed.

It starts somewhere. I was part of getting first WhatsApp started and then Telegram started and I am also reachable via Signal. (Sadly I do not keep up to date on my Matrix accounts, bit they are there.)

The good thing is just by being there you make a difference:

When someone logs into Telegram or Signal and if they accept to match contacts with their address book they'll see you are there in addition to a few others and it feels less like a ghost town.

WhatsApp felt a bit odd last I tried it, but it used to work this way there too.

(PS: one kind of advocacy I recommend against is bulk messaging all contacts about a new messager that is end-to-end encrypted. My wife told about how weird that felt for her colleague when a friend of the colleague did that.

Instead just be there, and when as you see more people arrive create persistent groups and make it worthwhile.)