[fragileone]

If vaccinated and unvaccinated are hospitalised are hospitalised with infections at similar rates (like is happening in the UK) then it'd prove that current vaccines are indeed ineffective long-term, as they already fail to stop the delta variant.

[agent327]

Not necessarily; as a previous poster commented, it does depend on the ratio of vaccinated against unvaccinated as well.

If a population has 1000 vaccinated people and 100 unvaccinated, and ten of each end up in the hospital, it looks like the odds of ending up in the hospital are equal, since there's ten of each. However, in the vaccinated group it is only one out of every 100 that ends up in the hospital, while in the unvaccinated group it's one out of every 10.

This is why I was complaining about overview numbers being unavailable; typically you hear only one set of numbers but not the context that would let you interpret those.

[SideburnsOfDoom]

> vaccinated and unvaccinated are hospitalised are hospitalised with infections at similar rates (like is happening in the UK)

What makes you think that?

The sources that I have seen indicate very much otherwise. ZOE always includes these numbers, e.g.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94RYUr3wFJA&t=231s

Note that per capita it's much lower among fully vaccinated people.

Around 6:20 you can see the stark difference in hospitalisations and deaths between the (mostly unvaccinated) UK 2nd wave, and the (largely vaccinated) 3rd wave.

tl;dr: anti-vaxxers are not right. Again. Still.