[howinteresting]

I'm really not interested in meta-level arguments. In general I find them to be tiring and unenlightening.

[kcplate]

And I’m not interested in people who advocate discrimination as a solution to anything.

So there, our positions are set.

[howinteresting]

Not doing any discrimination at all is a genuinely absurd position to hold. Discrimination is a necessary part of life without which society would collapse.

The question always is on which bases discrimination is good and on which bases it is bad. Discrimination based on race, ethnicity, gender, nationality, and other inherent characteristics of people is generally bad. Discrimination based on things like vaccination status is good.

[kcplate]

Like I said, people who choose to discriminate against other people always have some subjectively moral justification for why they do it.

[howinteresting]

And it is our job as human beings to ascertain which justifications are valid and which aren't.

You can't run away from object-level moral arguments. You just can't.

I am very much a moral realist. There are correct and incorrect moral stances.

[kcplate]

Any human response that can be considered evil by simply who it is applied to…is an evil response all the time. People may justify that evil by their feeling they have the “correct” moral stance, but it’s still evil and shitty to the target group. Personally, I am not willing to participate in an intentional evil to any group even if I disagree with them r are different from them. If that makes me immoral, so be it.