[theluketaylor]

Announced cybertruck prices were always highly predicated on huge battery manufacturing improvements (we now know as 4680 cells). There have been plenty of rumours Tesla is having trouble ramping up production volume and yields since they have admitted the refreshed Y might not get them right away, so if cybertruck does ship in mid 2022 it's likely to be a much more model 3 launch trickling out than Y where they could ramp up very fast.

That's ignoring all the basic issues with the cybertruck design. Tesla doesn't have EU pedestrian regulations to contend with (something cybertruck's basic shape likely cannot ever meet), but they still have a bunch of NHTSA stuff that isn't going to be easy with the weird choices they made. I suspect the production cybertruck won't be quite as extreme as what they showed.

I really like my model 3, but I treat any statement by Tesla as a complete fabrication until it's in the metal off a production line.

On the other hand, I'd be shocked if Ford doesn't deliver exactly what they announced for the prices they predicted. If I was looking to buy an EV truck right now I'd put my money on F-150 Lightning.

[jazzyjackson]

Plus the lightning has that killer frunk- tesla can’t compete on its tailgatability

[theluketaylor]

The whole grill coming up and the fact it’s so load/unload friendly is a game changer for people who daily drive a truck. No more leaving groceries in the bed to slide around or fiddle with getting them into the backseat of a crew cab. Then add in the plugs in the frunk and bed and it might be the most useable truck every developed.