[fsflover]

If you want a smartphone that lasts, consider Librem 5 or Pinephone. They support mainline Linux kernel and will receive security updates forever.

[unicornporn]

In theory I wanted a Pinephone. That's until I saw it run GloDroid. So choppy it's unusable.

My next phone will be a Fairphone with LineageOS[1]. At least they're trying[2].

[1] https://forum.fairphone.com/t/official-lineageos-18-1-for-fa...

[2] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/03/the-fairphone-2-hits...

[mmastrac]

I'm considering the Fairphone as well, but could someone give me a reasonable idea of what to expect with running de-googled vs googled? Unfortunately I still need access to Gmail and Drive from my phone on occasion. Is that still available when de-Googled?

I'd love to have a full Android VM running on a de-Googled phone where I could sandbox all of the Google stuff.

[unicornporn]

I've run Android Degoogled for many years. Gmail can be accessed via K-9 Mail or another mail client via IMAP. Google Drive can be accessed via a browser such as Kiwi or Firefox.

[fsflover]

> In theory I wanted a Pinephone. That's until I saw it run GloDroid. So choppy it's unusable.

This is a pre-beta version of software. If you run light and well-developed software on Pinephone, it's perfectly smooth: https://sr.ht/~mil/Sxmo/

[theodric]

Specs like a 2013 smartphone, and an OS without any commercial app support to speak of. Can't read my work e-mail, can't access my bank...a computer without useful software is only a toy, and the same goes for a phone.

[fsflover]

Answers (related to Librem 5):

https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque...

https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque...