[volfied]

You're acting in bad faith and you know it. You can't just say "lockdowns/masks/vaccines should have stopped covid, but they didn't", when you know that a lot of people out there refused to mask up, refused to quarantine and refused to get the vaccine.

People with your thinking are the reason we're still in this pandemic.

[dang]

Attacking another user like this will get you banned here, regardless of how wrong they are or you feel they are. Please review the rules and stick to them when posting to HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

I realize emotions have been running high on this topic for a long time now, but that's a reason to be more mindful of the rules. As they say:

"Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive."

[betwixthewires]

I said this above, but if your solution requires every living person to obey you it is not a serious suggestion for a solution. Everyone in the world was never going to mask up and lock themselves away, this was actually an argument made by people as part of why these measures wouldn't work. Is the current state of things proof they were right? I'm surprised to see this excuse for failure of these measures so often touted in a forum largely comprised of computer scientists.

[tux1968]

Edit: removed because it wasn't a germane comment.

[smolder]

So you're aware it was noncompliance that reduced the effectiveness of those measures, and you think... those measures shouldn't have been taken at all? I'm not clear on what the alternative was, apart from that.

There's a difference between what's reasonable and being perfect. I think they were absolutely reasonable solutions, since I haven't heard a peep about any better ones available, and even with noncompliance they are helpful.