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by jjjensen90
1760 days ago
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This is not true and a harmful generalization. There are dumb people of every type. There are probably smart people you respect that engage in CSAM and are minor-attracted. This kind of privacy invasion will only net a tiny section of that population, as most know that lack of caution is life or death. |
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That's purely specious, and you say it as if I ever asserted there aren't "dumb people of every type.", which I didn't say.
Yes, there are dumb people of every "type". Are there as many intelligent people as those of low intelligence who struggle to think abstractly, struggle to read and write, have poor motor control, rely heavily on dogma for a moral compass, or have trouble with impulse control?
If you think there are as many people with a high IQ as a low IQ with those traits, I don't think you're being honest.
Here's some data for you:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4478390/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14744183/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/961457/
https://www.dw.com/en/scientists-find-brain-differences-in-p...
https://sci-hubtw.hkvisa.net/10.1023/a:1018754004962
https://www.livescience.com/4671-study-pedophiles-tend-short...
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29625377/
Are most pedophiles of low intelligence overall? It's doubtful, but there's room for more study.
Are the pedophiles that are offenders of low intelligence? Significantly more offending pedophiles are of low intelligence than the general population. Yes, the factors at play may also apply to other forms of crime. But when you factor out non-offending pedophiles, those we aren't as concerned with in regards to CSAM, the ones that are caught aren't exactly the cream of the crop.
Furthermore, I've met a handful of pedophiles, both convicted and not. Every one of them either was clearly mentally retarded or bordering on retardedness, or they had a severe personality disorder. Yes, it's a small sample size, but the ones that were caught did so doing the dumbest of shit (putting aside the horrific nature of child exploitation in the first place). This even includes a female pedophile, who was both stupid and psychopathic, and I find it funny that one of those studies questions the very existence of female pedophiles.
There are many pedophiles that are of above-average intelligence. Most may not even be considered "dumb". But to imply that there's no difference in distribution of, frankly, dumb people to smart people between different behaviors is absurd in that it ignores any sort of relation implication that intelligence has on said behaviors.
As a group, the data does not suggest that pedophiles are exceptionally intelligent, but rather the opposite.
So yes, while I believe there is a privacy concern (I said earlier I would not want such software or hardware running on my own compuer), I stand by my conclusion that CSAM detection would catch a significant number of pedophiles and probably continue to do so for some time. The point of such systems isn't to be a superweapon to catch every pedophile. The ones that it might catch happen to be the ones who are most likely to offend. If you play the stupid game of uploading CSAM to Apple iCloud, you win the stupid prize of getting convicted, and it just so happens that a ton of pedophiles are likely to do something that boneheaded.