[codeecan]

They don't control the database used, any country can thru legal means attach additional hashes for search and reporting.

Apple has already proven it will concede to China's demands.

They are building the worlds most pervasive surveillance system and when the worlds governments come knocking to use it ... they will throw their hands up and feed you the "Apple complies with all local laws etc.."

[bsql]

Do any of the other companies control the database of hashes they use? A government could have already done what you’re suggesting but I can’t find a source where this has been the case.

[tshaddox]

They can upload any software to iPhones that they want. They may not create the database of hashes, but they can choose whether their software uses that database.

[GeekyBear]

> They don't control the database used

They control what goes into the on-device database that is used.

>The on-device encrypted child abuse database contains only data independently submitted by two or more child safety organizations, located in separate jurisdictions, and thus not under the control of the same government

https://www.techwarrant.com/apple-will-only-scan-abuse-image...

[Invictus0]

For now. Wait until the FBI comes knocking with a warrant.

[threeseed]

Then simply disable iCloud Photos sync.

It's bizarre to me that people are freaking out about governments adding client side hashes but no concern that they could be doing server side checks.

[babesh]

Have you tried disabling various iCloud features? Disabling iCloud is incredibly buggy.

I tried disabling iCloud keychain and it just flips back on. Sometimes it asks for a login first. Sometimes it shows a cancel/continue modal. Either way, it magically flips back on. No error message.

I tried backing up my device to my hard drive (with Photos already on iCloud) and it kept complaining that there wasn’t enough space. It throws error message after warning message that your content will be deleted. It created additional copies of my photos each time my phone synced.

To properly back up, I had to copy the photos directory to an external hard drive, delete the original, mark the external hard drive one as the system one and then finally free up enough space to back up. iCloud and the device backup weren’t smart enough to free up space for my backup. In fact, I first backed up all my photos to iCloud first because they said that it would free up space on my hard drive as necessary. LOL.

BTW, iCloud keychain is still on for me. Fuck Apple.

[babesh]

I just tried disabling iCloud for Game Center. It flips itself back on. No error message. Fuck Apple.