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by sorenn111 1758 days ago
Chinese belt and road projects are notoriously opaque but often have China bringing the financing, labor, and infrastructure. Foreign companies are often largely left out. The people benefit very little as the resources and value extracted return to China. The workers themselves are largely Chinese workers. The bribed officials get benefit and some profit is shared with the companies, but the populace largely gets nothing and sees the natural resources just taken.

[1]: https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-bills-its-belt-and-road-a...

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Chinese might even kill two birds with one stone guaranteeing purely Muslim work force. No more Chinese concentration camps, all outsource to Afghanistan.
> Chinese belt and road projects are notoriously opaque but often have China bringing the financing, labor, and infrastructure.

It's so opaque that you know who is funding, building, etc? Right. Also, who else is going to bring the financing? And as for infrastructure, hasn't china shown to be the best at it?

> Foreign companies are often largely left out.

So what? It's a china led project which the west is opposed. What do you expect?

> The people benefit very little as the resources and value extracted return to China.

That's true for everybody. The people benefit very little. Do you think "the people" benefited from Canada sending timber to the US or Australia selling iron ore to china for decades?

Why don't we offer a better deal? So using your logic, afghanistan shouldn't trade with anyone?

If china's deal is that awful and afghanistan is choosing them, doesn't it really show how even more for awful everyone else is?

Also, I wouldn't take anything by wsj, rupert murdoch owned and controlled propaganda outlet, seriously when it comes to china as his propaganda empire is peddling the most anti-china propaganda.

Do you think "the west" cares about afghanistan, africa or any nation involved in BRI? Do you think we are mad because china is ripping them off or that china is actually giving these BRI nations a good deal? My guess is the latter. Or we worried that china is ripping off afghanistan, a nation we invaded and brutalized for decades? Or are you worried because china is giving them the best deal? Be honest. Given how evil we've been for a few centuries now, which do you think?

China is doing more for those countries than the West ever has or will.

Yeah, sure, they're building the infrastructure to strip the country bare, but the West hasn't been much better. Funding wars and bribing officials to keep a country poor and disorganized in order to plunder it has been the modus operandi for decades. Before then it was straight slavery.

If the Taliban make billions and build modern cities, I bet you anything that large Western countries will sell their good there. Apple, Mc Donalds, Coca Cola, Pepsi, Yves Saint Laurent, Rolex, VW, Ferrari, and so many more will be trying to conquer the market.

It's just business.