[JadeNB]

> Freedom of speech isn't freedom to be a bigot. You can say whatever you want, but that doesn't mean the rest of the world has to listen.

To be clear, it is freedom to be a bigot, or at least to say bigoted things, just not freedom to have anyone else listen to those things (or, as hopefully goes without saying, for any action based on those bigoted things that goes beyond words).

[wizzwizz4]

> just not freedom to have anyone else listen to those things

This implies freedom to remember you say bigoted things and proactively avoid you.

[JadeNB]

> This implies freedom to remember you say bigoted things and proactively avoid you.

Certainly. Freedom of speech, not freedom from consequences, as they say.

[dane-pgp]

“There is freedom of speech, but I cannot guarantee freedom after speech.”

― Idi Amin

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9082497-there-is-freedom-of...

[JadeNB]

That's not the company into which I'd prefer to be lumped as a believer in free speech with consequences. I'm not sure whether or not that was your point ….

[dane-pgp]

I'm saying that unless you're really careful to specify what sort of "consequences" you're talking about, it's hard to separate your beliefs from his.

[JadeNB]

> I'm saying that unless you're really careful to specify what sort of "consequences" you're talking about, it's hard to separate your beliefs from his.

Since you refer to them as "my beliefs", I assume that yours are different. With no sarcasm, what are your beliefs? If you argue against the claim that freedom of speech does not entail freedom from consequences, is your position that freedom of speech should come with freedom from consequences? Surely it's not hard to imagine how that, too, can be a dangerous position to take.