[sangnoir]

> Only when the vehicle computer detects a known object on the road that it knows should not be there it is applying brakes or trying to steer around.

The problem with Tesla's "No LIDAR ever, cameras are good enough" approach is that it fails to detect emergency vehicles: they filter out stationary items out of radar signal as noise[1],and Tesla's ML models probably can't reliably identify oblique vehicles and semi trailers as obstacles.

1. Makes sense in isolation: frequent radar returns from roadside and overhead signs would be a pain to deal with

[je42]

Probably an artifact of the older versions.

See the Tesla AI Day. I expect the new stuff to deal with this a lot better.

[Varriount]

What is the reasoning behind "no lidar"? Cost?

[MaxikCZ]

The stated reason is "your eyes dont shoot lasers, so a camera is good enough". But the implied reason is cost for sure. With how fast the price of lidar drops, and its abilities increase (think solid state lidar), I wonder how long until first tesla with lidar rolls down the production line, or if Elon is too proud to ever allow that