[koonsolo]

The Taliban is absolute horrible. US tried to do a good thing here. For me this is a failure of the Afghan people who are not willing to fight for their rights, especially the rights of their wives, sisters and daughters.

At least US tried to make a difference. EU is very passive in that sense (I'm from EU).

[BasDirks]

A failure of the Afghan people! Hahaha, OK. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. And ah, okay, the war in Afghanistan was to liberate women? Meanwhile the US is in bed with the Saudi's.

[hintymad]

Exactly. Afghanistan people want Taliban, yet we're telling them no no no, you want our democracy. The US was "a nation of hypocrites", and still is.

[kazen44]

some people in afghanistan want the taliban yes,

the mainy problem in afghanistan is the fact that not many people feel a common sense of being an afghani. The country is extremely decentralised and rural. Most people only look at their villages and community, not at the bigger picture.

[chewz]

The US approach will never work. It is just naive to think it will.

Chinese approach to radical islam will work. But West will never admit that.

Chinese see islam as totalitarian ideology that is incompatible with Chinese values and competing communist totalitarianism.

[kingofpandora]

How would you like a foreign power invading and running your country? You better believe a large part of the Taliban are fighting not out of religious conviction but essentially (Pashtun) nationalism.

[koonsolo]

US did it during WW2, and it seemed to work out fine.

Only thing is that when they left, we made sure the Nazi's didn't come back.

Right now they were training Afghans to have their own military, but it's all so corrupt that it is just an impossible task. Those who can will flee the country instead of fighting for it.

[emilsedgh]

You are assuming Taliban _left_, and Afghans are letting them come back.

Initially, Taliban offered surrender. US denied their terms. So they kept on fighting and rebuilding.

They took over the country in less than a month. They never left. They were always there.

[kingofpandora]

They are fighting for it. It's just hard to see from you perspective because they are fighting against who you want to win.

[koonsolo]

So how do you explain all the Afghan refugees right now? Seems like they all love the Taliban so much they want to get out as soon as possible.

[lobocinza]

The many that collaborated with the US forces in any way fear retaliations. And if history provide insight, heads might roll. Look at what happened with French woman that slept with germans after WW2. Life is harsh and injust by default.