[tpetry]

PHP and PostgreSQL get a big release every year with good improvements. That you have to wait for the next stable release of debian (or in this case the one after this because they did not upgrade to the newest one) is not a failure of the web people! We are talking about one release every year, not every few weeks! Getting them years later just shows how unrealistic sometimes these stable distros are.

[throw0101a]

> We are talking about one release every year, not every few weeks! Getting them years later just shows how unrealistic sometimes these stable distros are.

* https://deb.sury.org

* https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Apt

There are times when I want slow movement, and times when I want fast movement. Debian allows for both.

[tpetry]

Sure you can use external repositories. But why bundle old packages when everyone then has to use external repositories to not get really old versions?

[throw0101a]

Testing for one:

* QA to make sure all the interdependencies aline correctly

* making sure the upgrade process runs smoothly, and that going from version X to version Y of some package is well-tested

It also depends on the upstream release cycle of the software package. The distro may wish to use the LTS version software (e.g., OpenJDK, OpenZFS, Django, Zabbix) but developers may wish to be more bleeding edge for new functionality.