[fuoqi]

It's interesting to note that DRA (the pro-Soviet Afghanistan government) has fought for 3 whole years after the Soviets have left Afghanistan. And it was with the almost complete lack of military support from the USSR (you know, the Union collapse and all) and with Taliban being actively funded by the US and Pakistan. Meanwhile, the current government probably will fall even before the US will finish its humiliating retreat and it does not look like Russia or China have substantially supported Taliban, at the very least it most certainly was not on the US scale of 30 years ago.

[rascul]

> Meanwhile, the current government probably will fall even before the US will finish its humiliating retreat

The humiliating part is that the U.S. was there at all, not that the U.S. finally pulled out of a place where troops should never have been sent.

[Beldin]

Having to send new troops just to evacuate embassy personnel before your old troops have finished leaving isn't the proudest moment ever, I'd think.

That is: the humiliation isn't in retreating, but in things collapsing even before you've left.

[GaryTang]

Most of us knew this was inevitable as soon as Biden became president. What happens when weak leadership takes over is weak results. Tale as old as time.