[mattr47]

Big difference between Berlin and Nicosia/Lefkoşa. I lived for 2 years (2010-2012) in the North as a westerner and while the division certainly affects the Island, it is nothing like Berlin in the Cold War.

Healing and forgiveness, on both sides, must occur before reunification.

[SerLava]

>Healing and forgiveness, on both sides, must occur before reunification.

I have an instinctive reaction to that type of language now - it makes me wonder if one side has dramatically more fault than the other

[Landefeld_1]

'Fallacy' ? Take two opposing Counterparts, teached by history. 'Farmers and the church were the first, who thought something like welfare, the farmer were "addicted" to the help of others to bring in the harvest, often village people to construct and harvest...historical the church seemed to be addicted to grace -which the people had to obey [turns-in-a-circle] to fulfill the will of "god" (abstract: a 3rd person). So it today those two (farmers and the church) seem to be the first who drag money out of it (the social).'

A few post above someone wrote something that "'fascist' refer to Germans who didn't join communism"

And that one may say, extremists are 'well-aligned on the idea of strict enforcement of their ideologies' (Quoting).

So take a look at history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwardian_era

And add that Wilhelm II (Germany) was an grandchild of the british Queen Victoria. And, that socialdemocracy as domestic policy was concerned the biggest threat of his time (under his politics)

Bismarck (his predecessor) for example whereas is considered as the father of the 'modern' welfare state.

Maybe a try to show how easy it was to distract me, with a simple 'governments pushing their agenda a lot more strongly than the general population would have on its own'. (-;

[vanusa]

Healing and forgiveness, on both sides, must occur before reunification.

Along with massive repatriations for lost property; compensation to the families of the hundreds who disappeared; and criminal investigations of those responsible for -- and who profited from -- the orgy of plunder and mayhem that ensued after the partition.

Of course.