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by debarshri
1771 days ago
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Fair enough. I understand you distrust in FDA and their regulations. Yoga videos do not harm you. In worse case you will tear your ligament. Person with depression and suicidal tendency (because we are talking about CBT) on the other hand is not comparable to yoga video. It is more dire than you think. Redirecting them to an app (because it is more easily accessible) is pretty bad idea when they should be going to an actual therapist. Having lived with a person for 5 year with chronic depression, your comment trivializes the disorder that many people in the world are dealing with. |
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> Having lived with a person for 5 year with chronic depression, your comment trivializes the disorder that many people in the world are dealing with.
Bold of you to assume that I have no personal or otherwise direct experience with mental disorders, or that I'm otherwise trivializing it. Were I in a grumpier mood, I'd tell you to go fuck yourself : D
I've seen plenty of friends give up on finding therapists because of the seemingly-universal nightmare of delays and bureaucratic incompetence, and I've watched the medical system spend _decades_ chronically mismanaging the mental healthcare of a severely-mentally-ill immediate family member until I took over his care.
> Redirecting them to an app (because it is more easily accessible) is pretty bad idea when they should be going to an actual therapist.
The logic you express in this comment also seems unsound. You claim that access to an effective and highly-available treatment should be severely reduced because it prevents people who need more intensive, less-available treatment from seeking it. It's quite an extraordinary assertion that we should _reduce_ access to care, leaving only the highest-cost, highest-hassle, lowest-availability options, and then to further claim that this will _help_ patient outcomes overall. What's your reasoning here?
Again, I refer you to my previous examples. Do you think information on yoga, mindfulness, and jogging should be banned? Why do you assume that access to a chatbot will displace more intensive mental healthcare but access to yoga and mindfulness won't? If anything, yoga and mindfulness are far more widely-known as a form of treatment for mood disorders; the average person probably hasn't even heard of CBT.
You can extend this even further. Should cardiovascular exercise be medically-gated so that the severely obese don't avoid gastric bypass surgery? Should we make it more difficult to get SSRIs (and hell, therapy itself!) so that the severely mentally ill don't avoid electro-convulsive therapy? Doesn't following your logic imply that both of those moves would increase patient welfare?
Truly, I'd like to understand how you think this logic fits together. I'm quite baffled by it.