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by brodouevencode 1775 days ago
I'd still like to see some solid evidence on exactly when the virus started spreading outside of China. Some estimates say it was in the US as early December 2019. I say that to mean timelines are very important if we're going to look back and do post-hoc analysis.

While I certainly don't mind the blame-all-the-US-politicians game, there are several points of failure. The CCP is most to blame because of the lack of disseminated information (that we now know they had) and attempts to suppress people communicating about it. The media largely ignored it for many of the same reasons that politicians did. Then the internet mobs, conspiracy theorists, and social media sites acting on behalf of political organizations didn't help either. It's death by 1000 paper cuts.

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Yes I very much agree, it would be important to know more about the origins. Still the fact is that March was the time it really went “viral” with all the excess mortality and widespread health impacts. So we lost all of February - January even if you account early warnings from WHO. Cases probably doubled into critical exponential increments only in late February / early March meaning there was enough time for fast action (see New Zealand, beginning of February).

https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/2...

Definitely tons of mistakes were made from the get go but FWIW CCP regime went all in with their dictatorial measures after they couldn’t hide it anymore (January/February).

Though I mostly care about my personal perspective / “realm of action” being European / Canadian so EU and NA I hold up to way higher standards basically.

Pretty much all of the governments in these regions waved away the risks even though they had all the high-caliber scientists and some press warnings early on in addition to WHO’s warnings.

It goes without saying that the “leader of the free world” wasn’t paying attention didn’t help either.

There is evidence of the virus in Italy as early as September 2019.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0300891620974755