[DangitBobby]

This response is infuriating. Pretend it's not that bad? No one feels the need to do anything. Be realistic about how bad it is? The people who believe you get too depressed to do anything while the others call you alarmist. What "strategy" would you propose?

[mc32]

I kind of agree with parent poster.

Currently the message could be summarized thus: "Everything bad you see in the news is due to climate change, if you don't stop driving and using straws, we're all gonna die!!"

People don't believe that and if they do, they're like, well, were done. What can I do, I'm only one.

Instead they should be aiming at the number one culprits, industrial processes and population growth... but they don't do pop growth because it's touchy because it would affect some countries more than others, they don't touch industry because... I don't know, but we know the consumer end of this is not the low hanging fruit or the most impactful target, yet this is where they spend their time and money.

They also like attacking big oil from the 70s because they influenced bad policies (granted) but speak nothing of activists who killed Nuclear (I guess few would own up to their own mistakes) --which would have dampened fossil fuel use.

[sieabah]

Well the solutions that are screamed at me involve me giving up my car, my gas range, most of the electronics I find enjoyable, any and all non-essential activities, traveling, etc. In addition to moving into a city with overcrowding public transit (you think it's bad now?) with rapidly increasing crime, more expensive _everything_ is just not something that really gets me in the mood to just say "YEAH, LET'S DO IT! Wait, why am I the only one doing it and suffering?"

I don't think forcing people into suffering (because it is) is a very appealing argument.