[brundolf]

> If the same thing happens with Netflix, it also won't keep me from watching Netflix content, I'll just stop paying for it

The Disney+ one sounded like a (hilarious) bug in their logic. Not sure why that would translate to Netflix

Edit: I may have misunderstood. I thought Disney+ was blocking the user from paying for Disney+ but not from streaming Disney+. I missed the implication that they started pirating the content.

[dmurray]

I don't think it's a hilarious bug in their logic, just collateral damage in the war between VPN providers and Disney/Netflix/etc. The VPN providers try to get IP ranges that look like residential IPs. Ideally they rent them from the same ISPs who really do provide residential service. By the nature of the traffic, Disney can't tell for sure that it's coming from a VPN - just something like "a suspiciously large number of users connected from this range, especially users who currently seem to be travelling internationally".

Perhaps the user had a dynamic IP address and kept getting one in the same range that was also used for VPNs. Perhaps he had a static one but Disney banned ranges by the /28 instead of individual addresses.

[3np]

Not only that, some VPN providers run through actual residential IPs acquired through browser extensions, apps, and smart devices.

[TedDoesntTalk]

Some official NordVPN clients turn your device into a proxy server which the other side of the NordVPN business (OxyLabs) sells to other customers.

[alacritas0]

Do you have a source to support that claim?

[3np]

I don't have time to dig up anything authoritative right now, but I assumed this was common knowledge and uncontroversial. It is precisely this kind of practices (reusing/selling/buying user and customer IPs - there are companies that specialize as brokers) that allows them their low prices while generally not getting blocked by services like Netflix, and I suspect it's also what's behind the move from NF.

[dmurray]

> there are companies that specialize in brokers...

You're describing a botnet here. There are certainly organizations that will sell you access to their botnet, but I wouldn't describe them as uncontroversial, and I'd like to learn about ones that are structured as companies or that have as authoritative a reach as NordVPN.

[DrBenCarson]

For anyone else who also read it as a big: the Disney+ user above torrented (most likely) the Disney content while not being a customer (a decision that was taken out of his hands).

I agree--they're not denying me their content, they're denying my payment. If this is really where they want to go, they know how it ends (read: someone disrupts their model and they get left in the dust).

[majormajor]

There are companies who sell lists of suspected VPN IPs. If Disney+ and Netflix used the same list, you could get blocked from both.