[natdempk]

I agree this feels like cheating. I read the Valorant page and they've basically re-implemented information that is available to you in game generally, but takes skill/timing/awareness to track and made it more obvious and automatically tracked. How is this not just a low-grade cheating program? If the game developers wanted you to have that information in the format Senpai.gg is giving it to you in, they would provide it in that format in the first place rather than using their own audio queues, omitting specific timers, etc.

[whateveracct]

In-game coaching _is_ considered cheating in FGC tournaments

[Olcy07]

We do not target tournaments - any 3.rt part application or a human coach is also not allowed as well.

[whateveracct]

Matchmaking has anti-cheat. This is cheating in an environment that disallows cheating.

[natdempk]

Yep, for any sort of eSport you can’t have outside help/information outside of designated times if the format allows it, but also this isn’t targeted at eSports.

[p1necone]

Yeah but it's not allowed in esports because it provides an unfair advantage. It's still unethical and provides an unfair advantage outside of the esports community, there just isn't a judge watching all the players and enforcing it.

[brundolf]

But cheating can happen (and be prosecuted) outside of eSports. The founders should be careful.

[atatatat]

prosecuted, lmao

[brundolf]

I'm not exaggerating:

https://www.pcgamer.com/south-korea-makes-cheating-in-online...

https://kotaku.com/forget-banning-online-gamers-are-in-legal...

https://gizmodo.com/chinese-police-bust-alleged-76-million-v...

[IChooseY0u]

This only applies to Asia. Nobody gets sued for cheating in US/UK/Can. Cheat sellers being the exception.

[woah]

You could go to jail for a long time. Watch it, buddy

[Olcy07]

Thanks for sharing your feedback, I agree that it takes time to learn and implement the specific actions in the game - and that is the reason why we developed the gaming coach. Ideally, we want you to learn the game dynamics so you can play better, improve faster and enjoy the game more!

[snet0]

This is akin to saying "if you practice with a cheat so you can see through walls, it'll train you to know where players are likely to be standing".

No, it's cheating. It provides an unfair advantage by replacing a skill with a technology. There may be good intentions, but if so they are founded on a total misunderstanding of competition.

[debaserab2]

I don't think it's quite that cut and dry - it appears to only be using data already available to the player. If anything it seems like a training queue to notice the information that's already present instead of passing it over.

[ben-schaaf]

Chess engines also only use data already available to the player. That simply has no bearing on whether or not it's cheating.

[notJim]

That doesn't sound like how it would be used though. If I can run your app all the time, and get an edge, why wouldn't I?

[alisonkisk]

Transparent, shameless attempts to deflect criticism make people like you less than if you just ignore it, phony exclamation point.