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by xyzzyz 1777 days ago
In Seattle, a typical local bus trip costs the transit company around $10, while the ticket costs around $3. Running twice as many buses would result in cost of something like $18-20 per ride, which would make it require even more subsidies than it already receives.
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That assumes the buses would be similarly packed. With a denser and reliable schedule you get more people using the bus and it can actually require fewer subsidies.

(In other words: instead of a half-empty bus every 20 minutes you end up with packed buses every 5 min)

The "farebox recovery ratio" for cars is also low: taxes and user fees only pay for only ~50% of the cost of roads, at most. The rest comes out the general fund.
Does that assume that no more people will use the frequent (convenient) bus service than were using the infrequent (much less convenient) service?
I really think the answer to this is to run much smaller and cheaper buses instead of the extremely expensive big ones that only have a few occupants. Shuttle buses cost around $60-70k vs >$600k for a new full size bus. Of course, driver labor is also a significant cost, but I think it's easier to find shuttle bus drivers as it only requires a class B license.
Luxembourg made all public transit free.

Including commuter rail.

And it all runs pretty regularly (bus, tram, train)