[zionic]

-Apple "lagged behind" because it built private and secure services it could not monitor by design. This is a feature, not a bug.

-Facebook's reporting overwhelmingly flags burner accounts signed up via tor etc, only absolute idiots would post actual CP on their real name account on facebook.

-Apples solution is highly invasive and dangerous, and your statement about "only running with iCloud upload" is false. It took less than a week for Apple to announce that they will open these APIs to 3rd party apps.

[tomschlick]

> It took less than a week for Apple to announce that they will open these APIs to 3rd party apps.

That just means they are allowing other apps to scan for CP if they want to (or if they are required to by law). As controversial as it may be, I would trust Apple's implementation way more than I would trust a random photo editor app's implementation.

[shuckles]

Right? There are people seriously saying they’d rather 3rd party apps ship all your images to whatever YC startup has integrated with NCMEC as a service with god knows what privacy assurances.

[bengale]

Read the technical details. Half the required data for the system to function is in iCloud, it doesn’t make any sense without it being uploaded there.