[blueline]

liberalism and marxism at the same time? impressive!

[andyxor]

i know right? they somehow converged, but if you look at history of marxist movement, e.g. Russian Bolsheviks, they all started as upper class "liberals" sympathizing with the suffering of the underprivileged masses. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[spamizbad]

> upper class "liberals" sympathizing with the suffering of the underprivileged masses.

This actually created capitalism first. Liberalism and capitalism are deeply intertwined, and I'm not convinced you can separate them.

[unclebucknasty]

>they somehow converged

Or it could be that some see any attempt to create a more equitable capitalism as full on Marxism.

>road to hell is paved with good intentions.

OTOH, it's far more frequently paved with bad intentions and apathy.