[GeekyBear]

>It's definitely the last straw for me in terms of apple products.

Google, Microsoft, Facebook, Twitter, etc. have all been scanning content for those same child porn images for darn near a decade now.

>The system that scans cloud drives for illegal images was created by Microsoft and Dartmouth College and donated to NCMEC. The organization creates signatures of the worst known images of child pornography, approximately 16,000 files at present. These file signatures are given to service providers who then try to match them to user files in order to prevent further distribution of the images themselves, a Microsoft spokesperson told NBC News. (Microsoft implemented image-matching technology in its own services, such as Bing and SkyDrive.)

"There are two opportunities to look at content," when it's going into a cloud-storage account and when it's leaving, she said. "There is technology to do this," Grant added, pointing out that file signatures — unique hashes or fingerprints — could be used to confirm the nature of the files.

https://www.nbcnews.com/technolog/your-cloud-drive-really-pr...

[hef19898]

Scanning on their cloud storage is different from scanning on users devices. The latter is opening a door to mass surveillance that wasn't even there before. That is the problem, not the scanning itself.

[GeekyBear]

The thing that is changing here is that the images are scanned on the device before being uploaded to the cloud, instead of being scanned on the server after they are uploaded to the cloud.

If it hasn't been a problem that Google has been scanning your cloud data for the last decade, it didn't suddenly become a problem now.

[hef19898]

The scanning was already a problem. A lesser one, as not using Google or iCloud avoided it. Now I can't, because technically Apple can now look directly at the phone. No idea hey it is so hard to get that difference.

[nicce]

You should note the fact that everything on closed systems is based on trust. Apple has had always the opportunity to look directly on your phone. That does not simply change overnight when they add some feature. And currently they scan only those images on-device, which would end up into the cloud. You can avoid this scanning by not using iCloud.

The feature what everyone is afraid of (scan all in my device), is super trivial to add generally. Company like Apple can push it to public in less like week regardless if this Child Safety came first.

This new feature is actually really hard to develop, because they try to create E2EE system with backdoor. And they want to lock themselves out of this backdoor to prevent misuse.

[GeekyBear]

Technically, Google can look directly into Android phones.

There is no difference.

[JackGreyhat]

How?